what about mtv when bill clinton did it in 1994. does it still rock to go on mtv? >> it was boring. i was like why do you care. anyway, sway callaway, the dj was the interviewer, and sway asked good questions. he asked about president obama please address the people that graduated from college with so much hope for your campaign 2008 who now don't have jobs. he really laid it out. then president obama said well, you know, a college education will earn a million dollars, that study, sway never asked a follow-up, never came close to asking a follow-up and only would say uh-huh, thank you. he was kind of cowed by being with the president. >> the president doing morning joe, spent a couple days with the morning anchor. brian williams got extraordinary access for rock center and nbc news. >> you know what a fan i am of rock center with chelsea clinton and the bowing anchor where he bowed the president. in fairness, i thought he did a good job deconstructing what the campaign team was setting up, when they went to the fair in iowa, put hay bails around two men in suits, brian laughed abou